Trevor Rose-Hamblin (owner/head brewer, Old Irving Brewery and Fiona McEntee (owner, McEntee Law Group) are on the show for a so-crazy-it-just-might-work balance of immigration law information and beer talk. We recorded the show in advance of the Trotter Project Beer Fest kicking off on Sunday 8/11 at the Irish American Heritage Center, 4626 North Knox.

• Why did I pair brewery owner Trevor with immigration lawyer Fiona for this episode? I thought they’d have “terrific chemistry.”
• The Trotter Project Beer Fest on Sunday 8/11 (Irish American Heritage Center, 4626 North Knox). The Fest launches Charlie Trotter Days on Sunday.
• Immigration law, especially as it pertains to touring musicians.
• We started our OIB courses with Fried Zucchini (Sicilian caper salsa verde, beer vinegar aioli, parmesan, lemon).
• The curbside service we got for the podcast has ruined me for all future recordings. (Also: Thanks, Matt!)
• The food at OIB is high end and next-level.
• How does Fiona feel about doing media: “I have a responsibility to try and use (my) voice to try and advocate for my clients.”
• Fiona’s next immigration-related endeavor: A children’s book!
• Labor trafficking and sex trafficking: Which is more prevalent?
• “Taking your job home”: The differences between Fiona and Trevor.
• We had the exceptional (and absolutely worth trying if you’ve never had anything like it) wood-fired Spanish octopus (crispy potatoes, Piquillo peppers, beer vinegar aioli, oregano, lemon, green olive salsa).
• The key to business travel: Exploring in your down time.
• We finished our tour of the menu with the OIB burger (8oz wood fired USDA Prime beef, white cheddar, caramelized onions, beer vinegar aioli, rosemary bun, plus fried egg and bacon!).

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