Mike Vinopal, Director of Education, and Joel Frieders, Director of public policy, for Hope for the Day return to Car Con Carne. They’ve been regular guests since the beginning of the pandemic for good reason. The need to talk about mental health and suicide is always vitally important, but certainly feels more so in 2020. What I like about Mike and Joel is they’re not clinical or preachy when talking about mental health and suicide. They’re honest and engaging communicators who listen, inform and speak on a welcome, personal level.

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